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Beatriz Bissio


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Beatriz Bissio, editor of magazine "Cadernos do Terceiro Mundo"

Fazendo Media: the idea we have of the conflicts in Africa is the one we know through the media, that is, those conflicts have their origin in the civil wars among the tribes. I wonder if they are restricted to these wars. What dia you see there the media die not show? 

Beatriz Bissio: the media works mostly and unfortunately simplifying the events and using stereotypes. A simplification that usually happens in the news agencies reports works as the basis for both newspapers and televisions work.

Edição # 9 - december, 2003.

It is mainly a simplification in order to treat the fact out of its proper context. The fact is presented as beginning and ending in itself, ie, one tribe facing another. We should ask whether it is more correct to refer them as “tribes” (what does that mean?) or as cultures, since “tribe” has in general a pejorative meaning. In the moment the fact is taken from its context, the possibility to understand the way-out is also taken from the readers. Then you conclude they are primitive worthless cultures making war against each other without knowing exctly why. 

FM: and what are the reasons of conflicts for you, as a journalist who knows “in loco” the region? 

BB: there are two serious problemas in Africa that deal to many others, but we coud state these two are the origin of most problems. One is that the present states of Africa have had their frontiers defined by the european colonialism. 

FM: in the conference of Berlim... 

BB: in the conference of Berlsim and its extensions. So, they are creations that disrespect in its origin the real cultures and the limitations historically existing in Africa. The settlesrs arrived and ignored them, gussing that was a land of no one; so they created a superimposition with an outside culture. The result could be no other than an aberration, as the most african countries are nowadays. They have no linguistic or cultural unity, and they do not have the feeling of belonging to a nation. And the second major problem, as it is a rich continent, is the existence of big international interests which are interfering straightly with the local problems, as the old saying “divede and you will win, divide and you will be a king”. Therefore, many conflicts that are believed to have internal roots actually do not have. They are just a product of international greed. It’s easier to exploit oil, diamons, uranium, or whatever, within a war context. There is a fisherman’s saying which is “a río revuelto, ganancia de pescador” (in troubled water, the fisherman wins), ie, who will exploit will be winner. Take these two ingredients, plus the colonial heritage of under development, and you will have the explanation for the major part of the actual conflicts in Africa. 

FM: we read very few of Latin America in the media. We know a lot about New York, Milan, whereas we know nothing about Bolivia, Chile... What happens to the media? Is it for prejudice or for sponsorship? Why are we not informed of what we are? 

BB: this is a very good question but at the seme time it’s a complex question. For the international news, the newspapers contact certain news agencies and the journalists prepare the page with basic news. Then what happens? As such agencies have european or north-american origin, they are managed by first world people. In that context, even the people who are more conscious of their duty as citizens of the world to inform in the actual global world, will always give priority to the first world news because it is what they know best. On the other hand, there are huge prejudices towards the underdeveloped world. For those agencies, the choice of the news is totally based on the values and on the nation they have about society: what social segment has its value absolutely increased nowadays? It is the economy. What area within the economy? The financial one. So, it only becomes a news what refers to finance. 

FM: that is also refered to the individualism you cited previously. 

BB: in the end, everything is related to a proposal of the society we are submitted to. And then you realize there’s all this previous concept that is determining the choices of the news, which countries are really interesting world-wide and so on. They are not our choices, they are not our priorities. They are packages that come closed. And when we contact those agencies all this is part of the whole process. How many facts take place in Brazil and are note reported by our media? Or, if they are, they express a certain point of view... For example, what is happening to the MST (Land-Less Workers Social Movement)? What is the view presented to us? It is the view of violence, of the ones who represent danger to private property... Instead of showing the other face of the coin, of emphasizing the need of teaching the campers, of offering them notions of citizenship and of self-esteem to turn those persons from excluded into brazilians people willing to be part of the society. And then your question should be adked in the courses of communication too. Because the kind of journalist that is being formed, mostly, with honourable exceptions, is the journalist that will act in accordance with that structure, that is, who will neither question nor think critically and, therefore, will adapt comfortably to this working structure without trying to see a little far away.